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Post by BuzyBea on Aug 23, 2010 17:34:35 GMT
I knew you still loved me!
There's nothing not to love about ice cream...
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Post by Anna D on Aug 25, 2010 9:47:53 GMT
So apparently we all fail at paper puzzles. Sad. We figure by the diary list there's other stuff we should be finding by now. We've had a general look though and not found anything much. Any idea where we should be focussing our efforts?
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Post by myf on Sept 3, 2010 7:25:30 GMT
Sorry it's taken me a while to get back here. Life gets in the way of things sometimes! Looks like there should be new things in a few places now:
23 Aug - Paid lodging (I'm not sure where that might be. Any suggestions?)
31 Aug - Caravan (presumably the Showman's wagon)
25 Aug - Links (the chain shop)
2 Sep - 2+2 (maybe the counting house??)
And tomorrow there should be another: 4 Sep - 2 storey Victorian (not really sure where that might be)
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Post by Anna D on Sept 10, 2010 12:15:09 GMT
Right. Totally cracked the paper thing; long absence having its payoff and all that jazzerooni.
I'll take some pictures, but basically it folds two ways. One shows a picture and an F (front?) and the other a similar picture but a bit different with an R (rear?).
In the interim folds there's also some equations! Trying to write them out here will be a bit weird so I'll take pictures later, but for now here goes...
Ftt = Rst(((d/t)/t)-(u/t))
and Ye = Yo - Yb + 2YbEl
I have never been any good at math. I suspect this is not a good sign now.
We've not been completely idle whilst we've been being idle either (long story about that; I'll get Cathy to try and explain) and we've dug up a load of other random stuff around the museum. More clothing (some more of it that Bea wants to steal) and a few more bits of paper. One particularly interesting thingumy; looks like an article from some sort of sciencey periodical. And guess what? It mentions transtemporal relocation.
Again, I'll take pictures when I can, but to summarise the important bits...
"It has long been suggested that space-time is flexible and elastic, and that changes made within it are reflected throughout time. The instability in the temporal fabric, which is often concentrated around sites of historic interest, or locations in which a great deal of history is collected in one place, makes it possible for objects to travel through the temporal fabric from the past to the future, via a fixed point in the present. Experiments have suggested that, if an object is displaced from the anchor point in the present, an object is also displaced from the past. It is important to note, however, that objects are more likely to travel further forward in time, with the natural rhythm of forward movement, than they are to move backwards. Thus, if an object is displaced from the present 200 years into the past, an object from the past will, as a result, find itself 200 years in the future. An object from the future will then appear in the present. Theoretically, this is harmless, as the way in which objects displace themselves mean that the balance within the space-time continuum remains the same. It is rather more problematic, however, if this method of transtemporal relocation is used to relocate human beings. Whilst an object in a different temporal location to that which it originated from does not cause a problem in itself, it is not possible to isolate the object to be relocated; so far research suggests that selection is only as specific as the material the object is made from, or something of similar composition. The same is true of individuals. The person themselves cannot be specified, so it is impossible to know who will relocate from the past to the future and vice versa. This is only the beginning of"
I apologise for any mispellings or anything else... I typed it from the paper, so.
And Sarah, and Simon and everyone else at the museum, if you're reading this... we're sorry. Honestly. Really we are.
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Post by CathCat on Sept 10, 2010 15:21:36 GMT
So yeah. Things have gotten a little crazy around Avoncroft these last few weeks. And I guess it's safe to say that we're not on the volunteer register anymore. Haha. And all that.
It all kicked off when we found that magazine article. The one that Anna was quoting above. The one that's talking about world ending, and all that... the one where Bea suddenly got this really sick feeling when she looked at it, and knew, right then, that there was something more sinister going on than a few bits of paper appearing here and there.
Simon... he doesn't see it our way. Bea's petrified, we all are, that there's something more to all of this. That someone has been sending stuff from the museum back into the past because they won't raise any suspicions, and in doing so have been throwing old stuff from the past into the future. Where, as we know because we've seen it in all those papers, old stuff is valuable. Really valuable.
Simon doesn't believe us though. Just kids playing pranks. And what's the harm, anyway? Oh, I don't know... the end of the universe, the fracturing of space-time as we know it? That bother anyone around here?
Apparently not.
So we were, uh, asked to leave. Politely. But firmly. We're really sorry we shouted, Sarah. Really.
But we can't leave it like that.
Assuming that the person in question has been conducting their experiments according to the diary, which you all seemed to be hinting at without even knowing you were, we've been turning up when he, she or it is supposed to be here. No luck though. None at all. Just kept finding the remnants of their experiments; clothing, papers, a christmas card. All clearly not of this century.
We've only got one chance left now. The 18th. The "final". We don't know what it means... but Bea thinks she does. She thinks that the only reason you'd send all this valuable stuff into a future you knew nothing about would be to follow it, sell it, and make a fortune. And we've read the article; that's not good AT ALL. Because either; a) you try and go forward. and you can't. and you break space time because nothing is ever equal and balanced again. or b) you go back. and you move someone. some poor person from the past who has done nothing wrong, and knows nothing, suddenly ends up in 2170 or whenever he's aiming for. and spreads cholera, or something equally horrid and wipes out civilisation. or they're someone important and they never get to do what they were meant to do, and time unravels and...
There's so much more horrible about b) that I can't even begin to go there. Phoenix sounds lovely, but I don't want to meet her. And someone else from the future, if he had to jump AGAIN from the past to the future... and that means some poor person from NOW gets sent back to THEN and it might not even work and he'd have to keep trying and... oh it's all a mess.
They have to be planning to go forward. They have to. It's too unlikely you'd succeed to try bouncing backwards. Surely.
But either way, we can't let them try.
And we're not going to. You can bet on that. Whatever you say, Simon. We won't.
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Post by BuzyBea on Sept 10, 2010 15:30:28 GMT
So you might be wondering, after all that, which you're probably still trying to get your head around (hey, it took us like two weeks) why we've come back here.
Well, you guys helped us before. You helped us believe that there was something going on, and you helped us to find the first few things that appeared. We felt like we owed it to you to try and tell you what had happened, and why we'd suddenly vanished, and what was going on.
And, well, we don't really know exactly how we're going to stop this guy from doing what he is planning. So, we thought, I dunno, maybe you've got some ideas? Or even if you haven't, maybe you can help us to plan. Just knowing that there's someone somewhere out there who doesn't think we're crazy is probably a bonus right now.
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Post by mravoncroft on Sept 12, 2010 15:52:46 GMT
I might have known you wouldn't leave things alone and that you'd still all be prattling about this ridiculous time jumping theory. While I can't stop you writing on here about it, I most certainly don't wish to see you on the Museum property again until the police have got to the bottom of all this. I did warn you that the Professor and his somewhat fanciful theories should be taken with a pinch of salt, but you clearly are all a lot more immature than we realised when we signed you up as volunteers. Having been given several chances to get to the bottom of where the Museum's objects were going, and co-operate with the internal inquiry we established, I thought Sarah's appeal to you to change project and help contribute to the fundraising efforts was generous, but not only did you continue with this ridiculous substition lark, but you were incredibly rude to Sarah. I won't have staff treated in that way when they've been helping you by giving you a volunteering opportunity. I might have nipped this in the bud a couple of weeks ago, but I'm afraid the arrangements for the funeral and trying to catch up once I was back, meant I hadn't realised how serious this had become. I cannot continue to let what is clearly a malicious thief steal important artefacts from the displays in the buildings without involving the police as it would negate the Museum's insurance. If you must continue to publish your ideas on the project forum website, I would ask you to at least keep the Professor well away and make it clear that you do not speak for the Museum. If you do wish to make amends a written apology to Sarah and myself and a renunciation about time movements being the cause of this will be sufficient.
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Post by Anna D on Sept 13, 2010 8:35:42 GMT
Probably a bonus? More like totally definitely the best bonus ever.
Anyway, as you probably gathered from all that, we're like, not allowed at the museum anymore. Well. Not like we're really BANNED as such, there's no restraining orders but... I think it's fairly obvious that we're not exactly welcome either. Simon, we're really really sorry, but we can't just drop it. If it makes you feel better, call the police by all means... but unless they're like, the time cops, I can't see it helping much.
We'll have to worry about the detail of how we're going to put into action our plan on a site we can't get to when we actually have a plan to implement. Which at the moment, we're a bit short on.
I can only guess, but if I had to make an educated guess, I reckon that diagram thing that was in the diary must be something to do with the device the guy is using to zip stuff through time. He's got to be using something, and it makes sense that the complicated drawing thing in HIS diary is something to do with it. Not that knowing that helps, exactly... but maybe it's a start.
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Post by CathCat on Sept 14, 2010 9:38:50 GMT
We could ask the professor. I know Simon is dead set against him, but Simon also seems to think we're attention seeking kids who are easily led so...
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Post by Sarah Butler on Sept 14, 2010 9:47:40 GMT
Guys... I forgive you. I do. I'm over it. But sometimes things are better left to lie, you know? Not dragged on. Simon isn't happy, you're stirring things that ought'n't be stirred. Maybe it'd be better if you just let Simon and the police handle this?
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Post by BuzyBea on Sept 14, 2010 10:11:49 GMT
Not a bad plan, Cath. Send the Prof a message on facebook. He usually takes a while to reply. Can't hurt to send it now. And Sarah, we know, but we just can't. Too much is at stake.
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Post by CathCat on Sept 14, 2010 13:33:58 GMT
Will do, Bea.
I'm just going to refer him to this thread, because that was a heap of information and I'm not typing it all out again... I'm sure he'll understand.
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Post by Anna D on Sept 14, 2010 13:59:21 GMT
This is good. This is planning. I like it.
Meanwhile, if anyone else has any good ideas, do shout up.
I don't suppose we could set up some sort of museum-wide time travel jamming signal or something? Or is that a bit too Star Trek?
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Post by CathCat on Sept 18, 2010 10:54:10 GMT
Time travel is a bit too Star Trek. I don't think anything is too far to think now.
Not that I would know the first thing about how to set up a time travel jamming signal though, mind.
Going back to that diagram thing, those equations; I think they're to do with how the mechanics of the time travel works. There was a diagram in the magazine article about how stuff bounces back and forth, and it bears a striking resemblance to that Y equation. Yo should be year of origin, where you start. o is used alot for that in physics. e an b could be end and beginning? Or backwards, maybe. Not a clue what the El bit is, but maybe it's some form of constant. If all the Ys refer to years, it could be to do with calculating how far things travel in time; from the magazine article, that's like... you go forward as far as you went back.
Good to know the physics at school wasn't a complete waste, eh?
The other equation... it looks a lot less scary on the paper than written out here with all the brackets. But doesn't make a lot more sense. I still think it's got something to do with time travel.
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Post by Anna D on Sept 18, 2010 10:54:45 GMT
I'll take your word for it. My physics is none existent.
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