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Post by Anna D on Jul 19, 2010 13:14:26 GMT
I've not a clue who Phoenix is, sorry. Seems like a bit of a modern name really for the 1950s, don't you think? Haha. I think all the stuff in the Prefab is 1940s/50s, I don't know of anything that might be 130 years old. I'll ask Sarah to ask around though; one of the curators is in tomorrow, maybe they'll know something.
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Post by lmcontaldi on Jul 19, 2010 20:03:01 GMT
There is no chance that card can be from that time, lol. Unless it would be normal to get your mom a birthday card with purple sparkles, heels, and a wine glass in the 1950s. Any chance this one something left here from a guest? maybe dropped from a purse?
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Post by Anna D on Jul 19, 2010 20:52:46 GMT
Purple sparkles should always be in fashion. It's always possible that a visitor put it there, but it seems unlikely. It was on the table in the middle of the room which is at least two metres from any of the barriers. You'd really have to be trying to put it there, you'd have to jump a barrier to get to the table. It's not impossible... but it's not very likely either, I don't think. But then again, what other explanation could there be? I can't see one of the staff putting it there! As Simon says, they're very particular about their room settings.
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Post by mensvenatus on Jul 20, 2010 2:35:02 GMT
Cool; are there any published geneologies of the area? Maybe we could do a bit of searching to find someone born in 1880 who has a kid (or grandkid, or great grandkid) named Phoenix?
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Post by horriblesanity on Jul 20, 2010 5:05:04 GMT
Anna, Simon do either of you have any history of the people connected to the house? Specifically birthdates?
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Post by BuzyBea on Jul 20, 2010 11:39:54 GMT
Simon's the best person to ask about genealogies and stuff... or I'll ask Sarah. I don't know if that's the sort of information the museum keeps. :/
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Post by mravoncroft on Jul 20, 2010 18:36:34 GMT
I think 130 is a bit unlikely to still be getting birthday cards to Mom! - the following appeared this week! www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-10687910I'm afraid I don't know much about genealogy - apart from making a reasonable stab at doing my own family tree when I was 17 (we were still reliant on using parish registers then - online didn't exist and one had to visit the church or the county record office) I've not kept up with what is published these days. As far as I know Mrs Stokes who I mentioned as being a former occupant has since died (this is a presumption, but she looked in her sixties in 1981 and so would be unlikely to still be alive, if so she'd be in her 90s) but we haven't had any contact with her. I don't think that distasteful object warrants the interest, but am slightly concerned that nobody has let me know where the Air Raid Precaution booklet which was on the table is now? Has someone put it away?
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Post by liaveekeli on Jul 22, 2010 22:12:59 GMT
This is probably not very relevant, but I was thinking about the significance (if any) of 'phoenix' on the birthday card, and I remembered that a phoenix is a mythological creature that's said to live between 500 and 1000 years before they're reborn. Maybe it's used as another clue to signify that longer lifespans are commonplace in the future? Or there could be any number of other references that I just haven't got the energy to sift through right now...
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Post by liaveekeli on Jul 24, 2010 21:08:33 GMT
Sorry for double posting, but has anyone else noticed that in the first set of pictures there seems to be another brochure/card type thing leaning against the vase on the table where we found the birthday card on the later set of pictures? If that's the case, do any of you volunteers know what that was? I'm still pretty skeptic to the whole concept of time travel, but I'm willing to investigate the possibility. Professor Croft asked earlier (on his facebook page) whether or not we had noticed something disappearing at around the same time the objects for the (supposed) future appeared, so I decided to check the pics one more time. Apparently he believes that might have some significance. And now I think that that definitely looks like two different pamphlet type things leaning against the vase.
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Post by mravoncroft on Jul 25, 2010 19:37:47 GMT
Dear Liaveekeli,
I've only popped into the office briefly - I was in the locality and thought I'd left my more respectable umbrella here after the downpour last week, and as I'm going to a meeting tomorrow I thought I may need it, the other one is slighly more garish having been given away free with something.
I'm glad someone at last has picked up on the fact that the Air Raid Precaution book which I've been asking about doesn't appear to be on the prefab table anymore - I asked our volunteers twice last week for someone to check if it had been moved but no-one has yet answered. I don't have time to go and unlock now, but I will definitely make sure someone looks to see if it is somewhere else in there in the morning.
Must dash as mother will have expected me back as we listen to Sunday Half Hour together on the Radio.
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Post by Anna D on Jul 27, 2010 12:02:01 GMT
It was definitely the air raid precaution booklet that was there before... and we looked, and it's definitely not there any more. Which is really strange. We looked around, and we can't see it anywhere else. It's definitely gone.
I guess telling the Professor would be a very good plan. Even though I know you don't like him Simon... sorry. :/
EDIT: I looked, and you have! Bravo. Let's hope he replies.
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